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- Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 17:41:35 CDT
- From: <U17527@uicvm.uic.edu>
- Message-ID: <94145.174135U17527@uicvm.uic.edu>
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: common everyday coleus
-
- didn't see my previous post, so if this is redundant please forgive me.
- The following entry was included in a book called "recreationsal drugs."
-
- "When psilocybin mushrooms are in short supply, and users are willing
- to settle for a milder but similar mind excursion, they sometimes turn
- to the coleus plant, particularly the species coleus blumei and coleus
- pumila. the mazatec indians of southern mexico have been tripping on this
- psychedelic mint for years.
-
- It takes about fifty to severnty large, colorful leaves of the coleus
- plant to get someone going. They can be chewed thoroughly and swallowed.
- If one prefers, the leaves can also be smoked and steeped in lukewarm water for
- for about an hour, after which the liquid is strained and drunk.
-
- No one is exactly sure what gives coleus its psychoactive kick, but we do
- know that only fresh leaves will work. Dried leaves have virtually no
- effect.
-
- While the drug has no really unpleasant or dangerous side effects, some
- people do feel a degree of nausea about a half hour after getting it down
- But the nausea goes away quickly and is soon replaced by a trippy,
- psilocybin-like state, colorful visual hallucinations and patterns, and
- telepathic and clairvoyant insights. The entire trip lasts for about
- two hours.
-
- Coleus plants can be purchased legally at most garden centers. Thos with
- green thumbs, who aren't too stoned to exercise them, might purchase
- some seeds to grow their own."
-
- has anyone done any experimentation with the coleus plant?
-
- glen
-
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-
- From: masc0270@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Christopher Hooten)
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: coleus -- hallucinogenic?
- Date: 25 May 1994 22:46:17 GMT
- Message-ID: <2s0kfp$rve@pandora.sdsu.edu>
-
- [quoted text deleted -cak]
-
- I bet you read this in _Recreational Drugs_, didn't you? A FOAF
- tried this by steeping the leaves in warm water, and drinking it.
- There was little or no effect. However, the same book above lists
- that the chemistry may be very similar between coleus and salvia
- divinorum (diviner's sage). I have heard you should crush up the
- leaves and put them in the side of your mouth for about 15 minutes
- to let it soak through your lips and gums (with the salvia divinorum),
- so possibly this method might work for the coleus as well. If
- anyone tries this, please post the results.
-
- -- Chris
-
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-
- From: cddugan@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU (chris dugan)
- Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
- Subject: Re: Salvia Divinoram
- Date: 26 May 1994 06:40:03 GMT
- Message-ID: <2s1g83$ojt@carbon.denver.colorado.edu>
-
- Alan L. Bostick (abostick@netcom.com) wrote:
- : Jody_Radzik@morph.com (Jody Radzik) writes:
-
- : >I just read that this common houseplant has hallucinogenic properties?
- : >Does anyone know about this and if so could you share it with us? Thanx.
-
- : From GROWING THE HALLUCINOGENS - HOW TO CULTIVATE AND HARVEST LEGAL
- : PSYCHOACTIVE PLANTS by Hudson Grubber (20th Century Alchemist, dist. by
- : And/Or Press; Copyright 1973 20th Century Alchemist):
-
- : "PIPILTZINTZINTLI
- : _Salvina_divinorum_ Epling & Jativa;
- : Mint family (Labiatae)
-
- : "A woody perennial herb 4 to 6 feet tall with square, hollow stems. The
- : leaves are dark green, 6 to 8 inches long, with toothed edges. The flowers
- : are blue of white on spikes. Only found cultivated by sorcerors in an
- : isolated area in southern Mexico.
-
- : "CULTIVATION AND PROPAGATION: It is propagated in much the same manner as
- : coleus. It needs a loose, rich soil. It is best grown as a tub plant
- : and brought indoors when the weather begins to cool. It may be grown
- : outdoors in frost-free areas. This salvia is generally grown from cuttings,
- : but I know of one instance in which it was grown from seed. The seed should
- : be germinated in the same way as coleus. Cuttings should be taken in
- : spring, after the plant has had a lot of sun. Cut 1/2-inch below a node and
- : root in no more than an inch of water. A pinch of rootone may be added to
- : the water and shaken well to dissolve it. This will help prevent stem
- : rot and will stimulate rooting. When the roots are 1/4-inch long, the
- : cutting should be potted. Longer roots may be damaged. Plant in a 2-inch
- : pot with good potting soil. Grows rapidly after the roots are established.
- : I have found that this plant is susceptible to stem rot, if over-watered.
- : It is often attacked by aphids, white flies, spider mites and mealy-bugs.
-
- : "HARVESTING: Harvesting the leaves for use as a hallucinogen should not
- : be attempted until one has at least four one-year-old plants. An equal
- : number of leaves should be harvested from each plant so that the shock to
- : one plant will not be great. Dosage may vary; begin with 10-20 fresh
- : leaves. Fresh leaves are used, as the active principle is believed to
- : be unstable. Considering the rarity of the plant, the leaves should be
- : chewed, because when the juices are expressed much of the active
- : principle is wasted."
-
- : It does not sound from this as if this is a "common household plant."
-
- : This is the complete entry on the plant from this source. Nothing about
- : effects or chemistry, unfortunately.
-
- : Alan Bostick
- : abostick@netcom.com
-
- Here is the entry under "Pipilzintzintli" in "Legal Highs: A
- concise encyclopedia of legal herbs and chemicals with psychoactive
- properties" by 20th Century Alchemist, High Times/Level Press, 1973.
-
- MATERIAL: Leaves of plant found in southern Mexico. Also used for same
- effect are leaves of Coleus blumei and Coleus pumila, common house plants.
-
- USAGE: About 70 large fresh leaves are thoroughly chewed and swallowed
- or crushed and soaked in 1 pt. water for 1 hr., strained and drunk. If
- osterizer is available leaves may be liquefied in water.
-
- ACTIVE CONSTITUENTS: Uncertain, believed to be an unstable crystalline
- polyhydric alcohol.
-
- EFFECTS: Similar to psilocybin with colorful vsiual patterns, but milder
- and lasting only 2 hours.
-
- CONTRAINDICATIONS: Some people experience nausea during first half hour;
- otherwise no unpleasant or harmful side effects known.
-
- =============================================================================
-
- From: Keith <keith@marlin.ssnet.com>
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: coleus -- hallucinogenic?
- Date: 26 May 1994 00:28:58 GMT
- Message-ID: <2s0qga$keh@marlin.ssnet.com>
-
- [quoted text deleted -cak]
-
- At the risk of sounding very foolish, I will admit to having tried Coleus
- tea about twenty years ago. The line at the time was that there were
- uncharacterized polyols in the leaves responsible for the high. It
- *could* have been entirely placebo, but I swear I experienced something
- very similar to a mild psilocin dose. Angular repeating geometric
- patterns on walls (if I looked for them) and the like. The dose you
- mention is about what I tried and I only tried it once.
- For what it is worth...
-
-
- --keith
-
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-
- From: dynasor@infi.net (Dennis McClain-Furmanski)
- Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
- Subject: Re: Coleus Preparation
- Date: 12 Aug 1994 12:00:54 GMT
- Message-ID: <32fo9m$co7@lucy.infi.net>
-
- eric@d0ibm2.umd.edu says:
-
- >Well, I have read quite a few posts and reports myself about Coleus being
- >in-active, but I have also heard evidence to the contrary. The reports
- and
- >information saying that Coleus IS active, also say that the leaves must
- be VERY
- >fresh. Meaning waiting 2 hours after picking might render them inactive.
- Of
- >course I dont have any personal experience with the subject, so it could
- be that
- >the information I have is wrong. But generaly I think people dont go
- around
- >saying that they got high of a plant that didn't really do anything, but
- who
- >knows. Experimentation is in order.
-
- This is my old, and due for replacement, method:
-
- 30 to 50 big bright leaves.
- Wash them! They may have been bug sprayed. (I get mine from
- neighbors' yards, so I'm never sure).
- Chop/shred - I use scissors.
- (The pieces will need to be small enough to swallow without
- chewing - think of chewing tobacco size)
- Put in a Baggie(tm) and freeze well, to burst the cells.
- Take out of bag and *immediately* consume, preferably mixed
- with something tasty and slimy, so you can just swallow/choke
- it down. Chocolate pudding works OK.
- Keep it down as long as possible.
-
- My results indicate rejection of the null effect hypothesis.
-
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-
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- From: robzr@ripco.com (Rob Zwissler)
- Subject: Re: Coleus
- Message-ID: <CvDtx9.67I@rci.ripco.com>
- Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 04:31:56 GMT
-
- I tried it with no result.. I bought three coleus plants from a local
- greenhouse and took most of their leaves.. I ended up with probably close
- to a hundred, although around 25 or so were large (about 4"). I forced them
- down with mountain dew (they are ver acidic tasting). One possible
- explanation is that they were not the correct species. From what I've read,
- coleus blumei or coleus pumila are needed; and coleus blumei is the common
- coleus plant. Their are, however, according to someone I talked to at a
- greenhouse, over a half dozen kinds of coleus. I read a description of
- the c. blumei leaves and tried to match it with the plants I bought, but...
-
- robzr@ripco.com
-
-
-